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ButcherBoy
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Here's something I'm chasing advice on. A mate of mine does ceramic coatings of engine parts, e.g. exhaust headers, 2 stroke chambers, pistons and basically any moving part of an engine. He asked me the other day bout my 250r if I wanted to get the piston coated and the chamber, he says the coating of the piston lessens the chance of detonation and helps against piston wear, the chamber getting done helps the piston slide and stops the piston from grabbing if it gets too hot. Is this safe to do to my 250r or is this something that should be avoided altogether?
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greenhuman
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I've heard of piston crowns being done but not actual sides of pistons. I can see problems with ring grooves and bore clearances.
If the engine is jetted correctly there should be no need for this mod. |
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ButcherBoy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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i might have miss heard him on that, but doing the crown and the chamber is or isn't a good idea?
It's not doing the mod for performance or having jetting issues, it's added "reliability" and less wear on the piston and chamber
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Hudson
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The coating for the piston skirts is a "moly" coating if I remember correctly. I've had no problems with any ceramic coatings before provided they were done by someone who knew what they were doing.
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ButcherBoy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| Hudson wrote: | | The coating for the piston skirts is a "moly" coating if I remember correctly. I've had no problems with any ceramic coatings before provided they were done by someone who knew what they were doing. |
Yeah, this is getting done professionally not some backyard guy who has a spray gun and bought a cheap oven from somewhere like ALDI
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ButcherBoy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Got my exhaust ceramic coated and tell you what, it came out shmick
Here's the details of the guy who does it, has his own shop at Cardiff
Coating King
Unit 2
89 Munibung Road
Cardiff NSW, 2285
02 4956 7055
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ForeverThreeWheels
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Sh1t Yeah! I think im gonna have to do the pipe on my 84R
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HaggLE
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I see you have a shifter... I hope you weren't rounding off any nuts lol
Oh, nice pipe too. |
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his name starts with butcher lol
good looking coating post up after a coupla rides as the old sparks exhaust on the raptor 660 were the same |
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ButcherBoy
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| ForeverThreeWheels wrote: | | Sh1t Yeah! I think im gonna have to do the pipe on my 84R |
Shifter was to only hold a nut while i done up the bolt...
get it Jye "Hold a nut" 
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HaggLE
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| You will have to put the elbow grease into the muffler now to match that shine. |
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ButcherBoy
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| HaggLE wrote: | | You will have to put the elbow grease into the muffler now to match that shine. |
Nar, it's all good
you coming to your olds with me today? I was thinking about getting there 1.30ish, keen?
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All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them 
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ButcherBoy
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| Mart 300r wrote: | | All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them |
HAHAHAHA, after we convince them we will have a nice cold drink of water we squeezed out of them rocks we found...
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ForeverThreeWheels
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| Mart 300r wrote: | | All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them |
Your airy will be goin ozday wont it mate?
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| ForeverThreeWheels wrote: | | Mart 300r wrote: | | All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them |
Your airy will be goin ozday wont it mate? |
Nah no way mate shes under the house.
Ill have a half chopped and welded/modified 70 airey if that counts oh an kezzas 200x.
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Mart 300r
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| ButcherBoy wrote: | | Mart 300r wrote: | | All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them |
HAHAHAHA, after we convince them we will have a nice cold drink of water we squeezed out of them rocks we found... |
lol mate i reckon well sort one of em out this oz day.point him up pages flat out should sort him out.
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ButcherBoy
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| Mart 300r wrote: | | ButcherBoy wrote: | | Mart 300r wrote: | | All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them |
HAHAHAHA, after we convince them we will have a nice cold drink of water we squeezed out of them rocks we found... |
lol mate i reckon well sort one of em out this oz day.point him up pages flat out should sort him out. |
Lol, on his tall thing with the tires he has on it i reckon he'd have a good chance of getting up it you know
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Mart 300r
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[quote="ButcherBoy"] | Mart 300r wrote: | | ButcherBoy wrote: | | Mart 300r wrote: | | All these aireys are lookin so good its gettin me real keen for mine.Ive got all the peices i need to, just a matter of draggin it out from under the house lol shame on me.Looks good leigh i knew you would love the r's.Ya almost let those boolaroo 4 stroke blokes talk ya out of it.Now we just have to convince them |
HAHAHAHA, after we convince them we will have a nice cold drink of water we squeezed out of them rocks we found... |
lol mate i reckon well sort one of em out this oz day.point him up pages flat out should sort him out. |
Lol, on his tall thing with the tires he has on it i reckon he'd have a good chance of getting up it you know[/quot
Your prob right ya know enough air out of them bad boys and that mother would climb everest.
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HaggLE
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Shame there's not an ugliest trike award tomorrow lol |
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ButcherBoy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| HaggLE wrote: | | Shame there's not an ugliest trike award tomorrow lol |
There's not ugly trikes Jye, there's only "special" ones
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