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[slightlydodgy]

You dont want it to fast, our last arrived before I finished calling the midwife We had to wait for 40 minutes until she got to us Then the next hour was spent with paper work, advice etc got to bed at 2am up at 4 to milk
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[HondaGrant]

Nice project you've got going there Mart.
A 200x and CR125 pretty good combination of machines,should be lots of fun when its finished
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If a Quad is a Quad Bike,
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[Mart 300r]

Gday grant,I was waiting for your reply mate thought you might like this one.I know you have a soft spot for the ol 200x's.
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[HaggLE]

So mart, when are you digging up the pics from the ones our fathers had back in the 80's?
Some of you may know that both my father and marts father had this exact setup in the 80's for the under 200cc flat track class...
They creamed that class and also my father used to enter it in the over 250 class and get 3rds I think... Greenhuman won with his 450 monster but this setup could beat most air cooled 250r's on the track...

I've got a vid somewhere... More to the point, where's the VCR lol

I don't know why Honda didn't think of it...

[HaggLE]

The moment has arrived...
You know, the one where projects like these slow down.

[Mart 300r]

HaggLE wrote:

So mart, when are you digging up the pics from the ones our fathers had back in the 80's? Some of you may know that both my father and marts father had this exact setup in the 80's for the under 200cc flat track class... They creamed that class and also my father used to enter it in the over 250 class and get 3rds I think... Greenhuman won with his 450 monster but this setup could beat most air cooled 250r's on the track... I've got a vid somewhere... More to the point, where's the VCR lol I don't know why Honda didn't think of it...

Not sure if i have photos of them builds or not.I dunno about my ol boy winning much i think he was more of a cruiser than a racer lol. Theres footage of the cr125 trike on those trikin vids youve got.i also belive theres one certain race was of a day dad lent it to someone and he hit the wall and bent it lol. Also the footage of johns 480 screamer maybe we could get him to go into his archives and dig up some photos john??
I know your ol boy will like this one itll bring some memories back for him not to mention hell give it all its got knowing him lol.


Yeh itll slow down for awhile now but wont be forgotten cheers guys
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[greenhuman]

I had a CR450 engine in a 1st generation '82 ATC250R. I only raced this one time at Cameron Park. I ended up on crutches for five weeks after it vibrated my rear brakes to pieces and I hit the tyre wall. One of the 8mm triple clamp bolts punctured my knee as I went over the bars and it pushed a perfectly round piece of leather into my knee which got seriously infected.
All the rest of my trike racing was on '83, '84 and '85 ATC250R's and 200X's except once or twice on a 175 Tri-moto with an IT175 top end. Ever tried to race a bar stool? That's a Tri-moto. There was a couple of times with Tri-Z 250 with a brand new YZ250 engine. Nothing else I raced was as fast as my air cooled 250's though.
It was Jim Sherrit who hit the fence at Raymond Terrace coming on to the main straight on your old mans trike, Mart. I can still see the 30 foot smear of petrol on the wall.
I remember when I was laid up your father hit the wall at Heddon Greta speedway and broke his wrist and Ken crashed that night as well and did his shoulder I think it was. We all went to McDonalds a few days later and we looked like WW3 veterans with crutches, slings and plaster.
Trike racing was fun.

[ButcherBoy]

greenhuman wrote:

I had a CR450 engine in a 1st generation '82 ATC250R. I only raced this one time at Cameron Park. I ended up on crutches for five weeks after it vibrated my rear brakes to pieces and I hit the tyre wall. One of the 8mm triple clamp bolts punctured my knee as I went over the bars and it pushed a perfectly round piece of leather into my knee which got seriously infected. All the rest of my trike racing was on '83, '84 and '85 ATC250R's and 200X's except once or twice on a 175 Tri-moto with an IT175 top end. Ever tried to race a bar stool? That's a Tri-moto. There was a couple of times with Tri-Z 250 with a brand new YZ250 engine. Nothing else I raced was as fast as my air cooled 250's though. It was Jim Sherrit who hit the fence at Raymond Terrace coming on to the main straight on your old mans trike, Mart. I can still see the 30 foot smear of petrol on the wall. I remember when I was laid up your father hit the wall at Heddon Greta speedway and broke his wrist and Ken crashed that night as well and did his shoulder I think it was. We all went to McDonalds a few days later and we looked like WW3 veterans with crutches, slings and plaster. Trike racing was fun.

GEEZ!!! No wonder all you blokes make loud painful noises when you get up off the floor!!

I've heard of "no stone unturned" but never "no race fence undented"
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Honda 1989 TRX 250r
Honda 1985 "70" 125cc
Honda 2012 "70" 200x

[Mart 300r]

greenhuman wrote:

I had a CR450 engine in a 1st generation '82 ATC250R. I only raced this one time at Cameron Park. I ended up on crutches for five weeks after it vibrated my rear brakes to pieces and I hit the tyre wall. One of the 8mm triple clamp bolts punctured my knee as I went over the bars and it pushed a perfectly round piece of leather into my knee which got seriously infected. All the rest of my trike racing was on '83, '84 and '85 ATC250R's and 200X's except once or twice on a 175 Tri-moto with an IT175 top end. Ever tried to race a bar stool? That's a Tri-moto. There was a couple of times with Tri-Z 250 with a brand new YZ250 engine. Nothing else I raced was as fast as my air cooled 250's though. It was Jim Sherrit who hit the fence at Raymond Terrace coming on to the main straight on your old mans trike, Mart. I can still see the 30 foot smear of petrol on the wall. I remember when I was laid up your father hit the wall at Heddon Greta speedway and broke his wrist and Ken crashed that night as well and did his shoulder I think it was. We all went to McDonalds a few days later and we looked like WW3 veterans with crutches, slings and plaster. Trike racing was fun.

Thanks for that john i knew id spike the ol memory lol.The footage of ya "screamer"im sure was of an 83 or 84r.It deffinately wasnt ya cr450 hybrid then.CR 450's werent they left foot kick???
WW3 veterans lol i could imagine it,You an lawro were prob thinkin how to make next race quicker.The old boy was prob chewing on a big mac thinkin how the farrrrrrrkkkkkk am i goin to hump 8 tiles across a roof now lol.
I really wish i got to be around in the ol trike racing days woulda been good fun.Tri moto ay lol they are painful to look at let alone race one.

Jye i reckon we try and get those ol vids on some dvds.Some good ones of quad racing on em to ay black betty lol.
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[Mart 300r]

GEEZ!!! No wonder all you blokes make loud painful noises when you get up off the floor!!

I've heard of "no stone unturned" but never "no race fence undented"

lol good one.
I know the old boy makes some noises gettin round these days dunno if they are from trikin or roof tiling though.I know his wrist isnt the straightest anymore lol.
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[Oldrodder]

Mart 300r wrote:

greenhuman wrote: I had a CR450 engine in a 1st generation '82 ATC250R. I only raced this one time at Cameron Park. I ended up on crutches for five weeks after it vibrated my rear brakes to pieces and I hit the tyre wall. One of the 8mm triple clamp bolts punctured my knee as I went over the bars and it pushed a perfectly round piece of leather into my knee which got seriously infected. All the rest of my trike racing was on '83, '84 and '85 ATC250R's and 200X's except once or twice on a 175 Tri-moto with an IT175 top end. Ever tried to race a bar stool? That's a Tri-moto. There was a couple of times with Tri-Z 250 with a brand new YZ250 engine. Nothing else I raced was as fast as my air cooled 250's though. It was Jim Sherrit who hit the fence at Raymond Terrace coming on to the main straight on your old mans trike, Mart. I can still see the 30 foot smear of petrol on the wall. I remember when I was laid up your father hit the wall at Heddon Greta speedway and broke his wrist and Ken crashed that night as well and did his shoulder I think it was. We all went to McDonalds a few days later and we looked like WW3 veterans with crutches, slings and plaster. Trike racing was fun. Thanks for that john i knew id spike the ol memory lol.The footage of ya "screamer"im sure was of an 83 or 84r.It deffinately wasnt ya cr450 hybrid then.CR 450's werent they left foot kick??? WW3 veterans lol i could imagine it,You an lawro were prob thinkin how to make next race quicker.The old boy was prob chewing on a big mac thinkin how the farrrrrrrkkkkkk am i goin to hump 8 tiles across a roof now lol. I really wish i got to be around in the ol trike racing days woulda been good fun.Tri moto ay lol they are painful to look at let alone race one. Jye i reckon we try and get those ol vids on some dvds.Some good ones of quad racing on em to ay black betty lol.

I convert VHS to DVD if you ever need any done.

[ForeverThreeWheels]

Oldrodder wrote:

Mart 300r wrote: greenhuman wrote: I had a CR450 engine in a 1st generation '82 ATC250R. I only raced this one time at Cameron Park. I ended up on crutches for five weeks after it vibrated my rear brakes to pieces and I hit the tyre wall. One of the 8mm triple clamp bolts punctured my knee as I went over the bars and it pushed a perfectly round piece of leather into my knee which got seriously infected. All the rest of my trike racing was on '83, '84 and '85 ATC250R's and 200X's except once or twice on a 175 Tri-moto with an IT175 top end. Ever tried to race a bar stool? That's a Tri-moto. There was a couple of times with Tri-Z 250 with a brand new YZ250 engine. Nothing else I raced was as fast as my air cooled 250's though. It was Jim Sherrit who hit the fence at Raymond Terrace coming on to the main straight on your old mans trike, Mart. I can still see the 30 foot smear of petrol on the wall. I remember when I was laid up your father hit the wall at Heddon Greta speedway and broke his wrist and Ken crashed that night as well and did his shoulder I think it was. We all went to McDonalds a few days later and we looked like WW3 veterans with crutches, slings and plaster. Trike racing was fun. Thanks for that john i knew id spike the ol memory lol.The footage of ya "screamer"im sure was of an 83 or 84r.It deffinately wasnt ya cr450 hybrid then.CR 450's werent they left foot kick??? WW3 veterans lol i could imagine it,You an lawro were prob thinkin how to make next race quicker.The old boy was prob chewing on a big mac thinkin how the farrrrrrrkkkkkk am i goin to hump 8 tiles across a roof now lol. I really wish i got to be around in the ol trike racing days woulda been good fun.Tri moto ay lol they are painful to look at let alone race one. Jye i reckon we try and get those ol vids on some dvds.Some good ones of quad racing on em to ay black betty lol. I convert VHS to DVD if you ever need any done.

I for one would pay for a copy. I'd love to see it.
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[Mart 300r]

Bit of an update guys,
I got out in the shed last night for awhile and got a little bit more done.Firstly made up some mounts and tacked em in position.Secondly started polishing the durablue axle that i dug out from the parts boxes under the house lol few runs on the bench wire wheel and shes comin up real good.Next was to tackle the forks that as you can prob see in the photos are quite bent lol (i wouldve hated bein on it when it hit what ever it hit lol) a couple of v blocks and my press later and they are now straight. i have the colour scheme worked out im goin for ktm orange frame silver swinger etc and some chrome here and there.I ordered a set of white rear guards and a white 86 250r front guard last.so white guards orange frame silver and chrome with a black seat with abit of orange in it is what im going for.Im going to make a jig up for the swinger hopefully tonight and not sure but maybe make an alloy swinger for it or might just keep it steel.I just really hate the early 200x swingers they look sh%t lol
Well heres a few photos anyway.Hopefully i might get a little more done tonight.






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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[richie_supercharged]

Nice work mate
Colour scheme sounds good, im going fluro orange PC'd frame and forks n black plastics on my 84

What plastics setup are you going to have? Eg radiator shrouds, tank

Will the unvailing Be Australia Day 2013?
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84 ATC 250r (290kit)
82 ATC 250r
77 ATC 90

[Mart 300r]

Thanks richie,
Yeh i think (well hope lol)the colour scheme will look good.my plastics got shipped today so all white rear & front white tank.as for the shrouds im going to have a go at plastic vaccum forming the same as aussie used to do.so ill make a custom set for it because of the radiators. These will also be white.then yeh orange frame silver swinger etc. I cant wait i just wanna get back out there an keep building it.
Im just really tossing up an alloy swinger or just keep it standard i dunno.
Black an orange 84 sounds real good mate.
Yeh im really hoping to have it done for 2013 aus day.
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[richie_supercharged]

I don't know much about making swingers but if your going with the stock rear shock just keep the original swinger maybe cut n extend or go all out alloy swinger with modern shock
Some of these old style cr shrouds would look pretty good .. You might be able just bolt some on by shaving them abit or if you really keen just make some custom like you said
85 Cr125 (my first dike bike was one of these)

88 cr125

98 cr125

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If in Doubt.. Flat out

84 ATC 250r (290kit)
82 ATC 250r
77 ATC 90

[ForeverThreeWheels]

Mart 300r wrote:

Yeh im really hoping to have it done for 2013 aus day.

Wow, its practically done. Looking good mate.
Hopefully we can have 2 unveilings at Australia Day.
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[Mart 300r]

Benny ya not aloud to unvail urs. Itll out do any build you can wait till year after thankyou lol.
Nah should be great i cant wait.
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[slightlydodgy]

Call me weird but I like the look of the older model cr more Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build If you make/modify your swinger it will be interesting to follow (good to learn how things work) btw how's wife and child doin?
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[Mart 300r]

Mart 300r wrote:

Benny ya not aloud to unvail urs. Itll out do any build you can wait till year after thankyou lol. Nah should be great i cant wait.

I did mean your trike will turn out better i re-read that an it kinda sounded like i was talkin about mine lol.

Slightly:
Yeh mate im kinda leaning towards doin an ally swinger for it. Kez(wife) & bronte ( new daughter) are doin great. I really do have a whple new respect for women after goin through all this and we had a fairly straight forwsrd labour. Cheers for askin mate.
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[ForeverThreeWheels]

Haha, Yeah i knew what you meant mate.
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[Mart 300r]

Got home from work today to find a nice big box with my new plastics.Now i even have another urge to get back into buildin this little thing cant wait.


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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[ForeverThreeWheels]

The white Maiers look so much better than te reds they do.
Im glad youve thought about asthetics. This build should present real nice,
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[Mart 300r]

ForeverThreeWheels wrote:

The white Maiers look so much better than te reds they do. Im glad youve thought about asthetics. This build should present real nice,

Yeh im stoked with how they look,im enjoying doing this build so much i know im interested in it because i get pretty easily distracted onto other ideas. But this one just keeps goin through my mind on what i wanna do next. Im kinda glad i bought the plastics that way i kinda gotta finish it now lol
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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE

[Mart 300r]

Bit more of an update guys,Pretty much got the flywheel/pullstarter setup done.I had to machine a spacer ring over the top of the flywheel that the cage mounts to.Than made a alloy spacer plate that sits inside the lip of the flywheel casing (inplace of flywheel cover)than the pull starter mounts to that.Please dont pick on my milling attempt(its no ylwgtr job lol)but i had to do it all by hand and trying to follow curves bends and lines by hand milling isnt as easy as i thought lol.But all in all the lip fits snug and actually works just as i hoped.Heres a few photos.
by the way troy(ylwgtr) did offer to build me a billet one of these very nice guy.but i really wanted to have a crack at it lol.
I just ordered all new bearings swing arm, wheels, axle,etc and a custom black and orange seat cover last night cant wait till they all start coming in also am bidding on a pipe at the moment so shes all underway.Also i decided im goin the alloy swinger i pulled all the old swinger apart and started jigging it up ready for an all alloy one
cheers guys.




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1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE