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ForeverThreeWheels
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

PC wrote:
ForeverThreeWheels wrote:
PC wrote:
Jamie wrote:
I got rid of my 85 a few months ago and got a the 83 aircooler


WHY? Rolls eyes


Because the '83R is frigin' choice... Why did you say it like that? eek Dont roll your eyes at the aircooler! Whats wrong with the '83R? Hrm Ive got an '83R!!! What are you trying to say Paul? laughing


Ha! Look out.........I thought I may have gotten a bite or two!
Sorry about the eye thing! laughing
But ask your self this "Kick arse drummer with a trike", if you had the choice between an 83 or 85 R............what would you choose?
Tell the truth!


Your right PC... I AM a kick arse drummer with a trike and if i had to choose between the '85R and the '83R i'd have to take the '83 for it has much more torque and controlable power than the '85. Everybody knows that...didnt you? Rolls eyes Me either. laughing I would of taken the '85. You learn something everyday!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I keep forgeting you kiddies have never had any real trike racing experience. I know it wasn't nearly as serious as todays farting around in paddocks and sandhills pretending but racing trikes was fun anyway. And thats why a 350X is a much better ride than a watercooler as well. T+CP.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

greenhuman wrote:
I keep forgeting you kiddies have never had any real trike racing experience. I know it wasn't nearly as serious as todays farting around in paddocks and sandhills pretending but racing trikes was fun anyway. And thats why a 350X is a much better ride than a watercooler as well. T+CP.

That still doesnt tell me why the 250 Air coolers are better than water cooled?
All that says is your better than us because you were lucky and old enough to have raced trikes.
My question was, why are they better? And I cant see any explanation for the 250, we weren't talking about the 350x.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Much more torque and controlable power than a watercooler. In the application I said, flat tracking and speedway, in my limited experiences with owning numerous air and watercooler when they were new, I found the aircooler much better and the watercooler lacking.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I was thinking handleing. With the newer technology (Shocks and geometry) the later models would have been alot more rider friendly, but I guess this is not the case.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

PC wrote:
Jamie wrote:
I got rid of my 85 a few months ago and got a the 83 aircooler


WHY? Rolls eyes


Im still asking my self the same question Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised
I have had so much trouble with this bike I only got about 4 decent rides in before it blew a gear I think I should have kept my old 85 eek Sad
I just went and ordered a .80 over piston n rings so hopefully it should be back together and going by the weekend and all the problems with it should be gone
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I was thinking handleing. With the newer technology (Shocks and geometry) the later models would have been alot more rider friendly, but I guess this is not the case.

The new geometry didn't really come into effect when they were lowered.
Like I said I found the older model better for speedway etc. Where suspension was essential like MX the watercoolers were better.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have ridden and owned both ,In my option I would stay with a water cooled trike Faster more responsive handle better ,I couldn't count the amount of times I have gorn around the outside/inside of an air cooled on a track ,as for a 350 x I have never owned one only because the power to weight was a little on the low side for me.

(Ok let me have it)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What track?
Does that mean the aircooler was in FRONT at some stage or were you lapping them?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I got the barrel and the new piston back today got it all together and it was still doing the same thing burning oil and going crazy,So I ripped it all apart again and found out that I didnt put some spacer thing that sits in the clutch side crank seal, got it back together AGAIN and it took a while to start but once it did it seemed alright it wasnt burning oil and going crazy took it down the street and back and it was going good and going through all 5 gears,So its fixed once again just hopefully it stays going.
Im gonna take it down the park tomorrow and give it a run..

will get some better pics tomorrow
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Back together again!!

 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Looks much better with the white shrouds Jamie.....we riding again this Sunday ?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yep Im in for sunday!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hey aussie can you do the shrouds in red

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kyle wrote:
hey aussie can you do the shrouds in red

cheers


I wish, its unavailable here in Australia i can only do black or white, there is PVC in colours but its not really suited for this type of application.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Went over to the beach today to give it a run It went through all the gears alright and everything worked alright,all the packing in the silencer was blocked and i mixed the fuel too rich so it was a running a little rough and bogging down heaps but other then that it went ok.Going over about lunch time tomorrow to give it another run Smile
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jamie wrote:
Went over to the beach today to give it a run It went through all the gears alright and everything worked alright,all the packing in the silencer was blocked and i mixed the fuel too rich so it was a running a little rough and bogging down heaps but other then that it went ok.Going over about lunch time tomorrow to give it another run Smile


Ok i will be there about 10-10.30.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jamie wrote:
Went over to the beach today to give it a run It went through all the gears alright and everything worked alright,all the packing in the silencer was blocked and i mixed the fuel too rich so it was a running a little rough and bogging down heaps but other then that it went ok.Going over about lunch time tomorrow to give it another run Smile

Good to hear mate, i will have to get mine fixed soon now. Rolls eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I am now after the rear axle lock nuts for a 83-84R if anyone can help?,I stacked my bike yesterday and the axle came loose went to tighten them back up and they stripped out on me,Just went to a few nut and bolt places but nobody deals with stuff like that.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Looking good Jamie.
Do the rear tyres have left and right written on them. I dont know about your tyres but the dunesliders are clearly labled and they have the peak of the paddle on the inside closest to the frame. just an observation Neutral
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yer I think they go the other way,I tried them both ways and didnt like them so I Just went back to a set of dirt tyres
 
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