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[47industries]

Not yet. We are going up in a few weeks to set the track up. I will do it then.
Mick@47
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Terminator Team NT

Matt Stone Pro 450
Justin McKinley Pro 450
Mark Allcorn Open
Ed Hargraves Open
Darren Colbert 4x4
Graham Murray open maybe
Vivian Hoy Womens
Locky Stone Juniors

Looks likes a big weekend
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[brett]

so why is there a 450cc limit on the pro class at thumb pump??? isnt pro the skills of the rider not the size bike he is on?????

[Huskygoat]

Cause Can am's keep getting smashed by KTM's and Polaris's . thin out competiton a bit hey mick . and it should be 450 cc like GNCC
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[47industries]

450cc is the standard USA pro class engine size in GNCC and MX.
Just trying to drag Aussie ATV racing into the 21st century. Like I said earlier though, if I don't get enough support for the class, I will drop it. Just to stir you up a little Husky, if the KTM's and Polaris's are so good, and they both offer a 450cc engine option, why do they need the bigger cc's to keep up? Now before you all get upset (Lenny) you know I'm only messing with ya! I understand that some of the riders usually considered Pro already have the bigger bore machines. That's fine, everyone has a shot at the outright win as well as their class win. I have not received any complaints as yet, and certainly no body has given me a reason to change the classes, not even when you and I discussed it Husky!
Mick@47
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[brett]

we are so far behind the usa we cant see where they have gone! just seems like your penilising those who are good enough to contest the pro class who choose to ride an enduro style bike at an enduro style event?? and what hope has joe average got of getting a podium finsh in a class when you have pro riders in both pro and open classes??

[SIKMIC]

brett wrote:

we are so far behind the usa we cant see where they have gone! just seems like your penilising those who are good enough to contest the pro class who choose to ride an enduro style bike at an enduro style event?? and what hope has joe average got of getting a podium finsh in a class when you have pro riders in both pro and open classes??

I think Mick is trying to say that having the 450cc limit is a start on bringing us up to scratch with the U.S. Having a CC limit also means that people are less likely to have huge a power advantage so it comes down to the rider more.
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[brett]

todays 450 s are that highly tuned theres not really that much difference in performace,

[Huskygoat]

I think what Brett is trying to get at is there will be pros in both classes and the Gumby riders like me and OZ 250 who are there for growth of the sport just would like a trophy for coming last with all gumby mates .
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[SIKMIC]

Encouragement awards would be nice.
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[yogie]

Huskygoat wrote:

I think what Brett is trying to get at is there will be pros in both classes and the Gumby riders like me and OZ 250 who are there for growth of the sport just would like a trophy for coming last with all gumby mates .

you mean I'm even gunna finish in front of you two. woohoo
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And now for the encouragement awards

For the rider who got in everybody's way, tripped as many as he could at the start, sprayed the scorers with roost, run into the marshal, told the ambos that a rider had his leg cut off they better take their needle and thread, filled roycrofts fuel with xxxx , blocked up the portaloo , flattened bazzs camera batteries, run over the event signs on the way in, used can am tents as trampolines, moved arrows on the course, drew smilys on the overnight score sheets, wrote bullets ph on the portaloo for a good time, was caught on the track yelling "slow down" goes to ...........




me
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[47industries]

Nice work Husky, I would expect nothing less.
Everyone get's a race plaque, just like they did last year, so everyone get's an award for competing, or trying to compete, or for not even trying at all (sorry Scooter, I didn't want to leave you out).
Mick@47
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[Scooter]

Yeh thanks Mick.
Just to let you know - Foggy is not very well and has asked
to team up with me again - work that one out.
Just a few conditions like No Drinking, smoking and go to bed early.
I said that’s ok if Team Larma does the same thing.

Dylon has changed his work roster so he can fly in Thursday before - leave a spot for him.
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[Linc]

47industries wrote:

450cc is the standard USA pro class engine size in GNCC and MX. Just trying to drag Aussie ATV racing into the 21st century. Like I said earlier though, if I don't get enough support for the class, I will drop it. Just to stir you up a little Husky, if the KTM's and Polaris's are so good, and they both offer a 450cc engine option, why do they need the bigger cc's to keep up? Now before you all get upset (Lenny) you know I'm only messing with ya! I understand that some of the riders usually considered Pro already have the bigger bore machines. That's fine, everyone has a shot at the outright win as well as their class win. I have not received any complaints as yet, and certainly no body has given me a reason to change the classes, not even when you and I discussed it Husky! Mick@47

I think I'll have to agree with Brett here. 450cc limit on PRO's is silly. What does a PRO grade rider with a KTM/Outlaw/700XX, or one of the many big bore MX quads getting around enter? do you expect him on the start line with some gumby on his new Raptor in the Open Class? I think there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class.

Better if you made the classes PRO-450 & PRO Open and then mixed them up of the line according to qualifyng times. You'll then have 2 Pro class winners and an outright TP300 winner.

JMO Linc

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Linc wrote:

47industries wrote: 450cc is the standard USA pro class engine size in GNCC and MX. Just trying to drag Aussie ATV racing into the 21st century. Like I said earlier though, if I don't get enough support for the class, I will drop it. Just to stir you up a little Husky, if the KTM's and Polaris's are so good, and they both offer a 450cc engine option, why do they need the bigger cc's to keep up? Now before you all get upset (Lenny) you know I'm only messing with ya! I understand that some of the riders usually considered Pro already have the bigger bore machines. That's fine, everyone has a shot at the outright win as well as their class win. I have not received any complaints as yet, and certainly no body has given me a reason to change the classes, not even when you and I discussed it Husky! Mick@47 I think I'll have to agree with Brett here. 450cc limit on PRO's is silly. What does a PRO grade rider with a KTM/Outlaw/700XX, or one of the many big bore MX quads getting around enter? do you expect him on the start line with some gumby on his new Raptor in the Open Class? I think there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Better if you made the classes PRO-450 & PRO Open and then mixed them up of the line according to qualifyng times. You'll then have 2 Pro class winners and an outright TP300 winner. JMO Linc

Isn't every one starting togerther anyway??? So whats it matter?

At first I had some issues with this rule but I think its a step in the right direction and MX should be doing the same thing. If you going to have a """"PRO"""" class I think they should be on the same size machinery.
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Hey Scooter, Froggy sounds like hes taking this serious, my last pre nup had less conditions than that.
PS.I think ive found a gym that will let you smoke whilst your on the treadmill,will confirm later.
Rosey

[47industries]

Linc wrote:

47industries wrote: 450cc is the standard USA pro class engine size in GNCC and MX. Just trying to drag Aussie ATV racing into the 21st century. Like I said earlier though, if I don't get enough support for the class, I will drop it. Just to stir you up a little Husky, if the KTM's and Polaris's are so good, and they both offer a 450cc engine option, why do they need the bigger cc's to keep up? Now before you all get upset (Lenny) you know I'm only messing with ya! I understand that some of the riders usually considered Pro already have the bigger bore machines. That's fine, everyone has a shot at the outright win as well as their class win. I have not received any complaints as yet, and certainly no body has given me a reason to change the classes, not even when you and I discussed it Husky! Mick@47 I think I'll have to agree with Brett here. 450cc limit on PRO's is silly. What does a PRO grade rider with a KTM/Outlaw/700XX, or one of the many big bore MX quads getting around enter? do you expect him on the start line with some gumby on his new Raptor in the Open Class? I think there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Better if you made the classes PRO-450 & PRO Open and then mixed them up of the line according to qualifyng times. You'll then have 2 Pro class winners and an outright TP300 winner. JMO Linc

What does a Pro rider on a big bore enter, open mens or womens, just like last year!
Do I expect them to start on the line with the Raptor Gumby, yes, just like last year.
You say there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Were there issues last year? If anything, I am taking a large amount of the Pro riders out of the open class, which to your way of thinking will create less issues.
The 450 Pro class is an additional class, which everyone with a valid argument seems to be OK with and support.
Great.
Mick@47
P.S. It's OK Linc, you're still a winner in my book mate!
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[Huskygoat]

47industries wrote:

Linc wrote: 47industries wrote: 450cc is the standard USA pro class engine size in GNCC and MX. Just trying to drag Aussie ATV racing into the 21st century. Like I said earlier though, if I don't get enough support for the class, I will drop it. Just to stir you up a little Husky, if the KTM's and Polaris's are so good, and they both offer a 450cc engine option, why do they need the bigger cc's to keep up? Now before you all get upset (Lenny) you know I'm only messing with ya! I understand that some of the riders usually considered Pro already have the bigger bore machines. That's fine, everyone has a shot at the outright win as well as their class win. I have not received any complaints as yet, and certainly no body has given me a reason to change the classes, not even when you and I discussed it Husky! Mick@47 I think I'll have to agree with Brett here. 450cc limit on PRO's is silly. What does a PRO grade rider with a KTM/Outlaw/700XX, or one of the many big bore MX quads getting around enter? do you expect him on the start line with some gumby on his new Raptor in the Open Class? I think there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Better if you made the classes PRO-450 & PRO Open and then mixed them up of the line according to qualifyng times. You'll then have 2 Pro class winners and an outright TP300 winner. JMO Linc What does a Pro rider on a big bore enter, open mens or womens, just like last year! Do I expect them to start on the line with the Raptor Gumby, yes, just like last year. You say there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Were there issues last year? If anything, I am taking a large amount of the Pro riders out of the open class, which to your way of thinking will create less issues. The 450 Pro class is an additional class, which everyone with a valid argument seems to be OK with and support. Great. Mick@47 P.S. It's OK Linc, you're still a winner in my book mate!

Last year you had a prologue? this year drawn out of a hat?

Pro's don't want to start with gumbies Pro's like the confidence of the rider beside them can stop in the corner .

Take your Yellow foggy glasses off people are telling you nicely all the rest won't come. and if youre doing it for the sport you should look after clubman and VETS first.

the success of the event shouldn't be the Bullsh!t you write in your wanker cam reports.
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Huskygoat wrote:

47industries wrote: Linc wrote: 47industries wrote: 450cc is the standard USA pro class engine size in GNCC and MX. Just trying to drag Aussie ATV racing into the 21st century. Like I said earlier though, if I don't get enough support for the class, I will drop it. Just to stir you up a little Husky, if the KTM's and Polaris's are so good, and they both offer a 450cc engine option, why do they need the bigger cc's to keep up? Now before you all get upset (Lenny) you know I'm only messing with ya! I understand that some of the riders usually considered Pro already have the bigger bore machines. That's fine, everyone has a shot at the outright win as well as their class win. I have not received any complaints as yet, and certainly no body has given me a reason to change the classes, not even when you and I discussed it Husky! Mick@47 I think I'll have to agree with Brett here. 450cc limit on PRO's is silly. What does a PRO grade rider with a KTM/Outlaw/700XX, or one of the many big bore MX quads getting around enter? do you expect him on the start line with some gumby on his new Raptor in the Open Class? I think there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Better if you made the classes PRO-450 & PRO Open and then mixed them up of the line according to qualifyng times. You'll then have 2 Pro class winners and an outright TP300 winner. JMO Linc What does a Pro rider on a big bore enter, open mens or womens, just like last year! Do I expect them to start on the line with the Raptor Gumby, yes, just like last year. You say there will be issues mixing Pro riders with everyone else in the one "Open" class. Were there issues last year? If anything, I am taking a large amount of the Pro riders out of the open class, which to your way of thinking will create less issues. The 450 Pro class is an additional class, which everyone with a valid argument seems to be OK with and support. Great. Mick@47 P.S. It's OK Linc, you're still a winner in my book mate! Last year you had a prologue? this year drawn out of a hat? Pro's don't want to start with gumbies Pro's like the confidence of the rider beside them can stop in the corner . Take your Yellow foggy glasses off people are telling you nicely all the rest won't come. and if youre doing it for the sport you should look after clubman and VETS first. the success of the event shouldn't be the Bullsh!t you write in your wanker cam reports.

When was the last time you entered a Pro class Husky???? I enter them when ever they are avalible and I don't mind lining up next to the likes of Chris Brenton or the new guy on his 10 year old stock TRX 400 in his first race. So don't tell me who i'd rather start a race with. Whats wrong with trying something new Husky???? As Mick said if it dosen't work out he will drop the idea. Talk about giving about a bloke a kick in the guts every time he trys somthing new for the sport. Just be gratefull that sombody is putting up there hand to try and run somthing like this I don't see many others doing it! I'm not sure about everybody else on here but i'm sure sick of your negitive attitude about about nearly everything that sombody brings up on here. You worry about the stuff up north and let the rest of the country worry about there stuff
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[Huskygoat]

Hang on smithy who didn't come to Joe byrd because it was a Honda Event?

Don't tell me about putting on events.

Maybe I get my friends at Finke to start you Backwards this Year since its up north.

By the way seen you on wanker cam
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[Haggis]

Good to have u back Smithy, well said.

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Huskygoat wrote:

Hang on smithy who didn't come to Joe byrd because it was a Honda Event? Don't tell me about putting on events. Maybe I get my friends at Finke to start you Backwards this Year since its up north. By the way seen you on wanker cam

I didn't go to Joe Byrd because I had only just gotten back from Safari and went straight to the Vic's there was no way in hell I could get to Darwin the next week for that! Even if I wanted to wich I didn't. And this is what its all about isn't it Husky your still holding a grudge againts anything Can-Am because they wouldn't pay for you to bring a Honda rider over from the states. Get over it mate! Anyway i'm not going to get sucked into a fourm slinging match with you so thats about enough from me i think
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Smithy you know why the rule is there is to keep luke B and ED hargraves out of pro class

Never ever have I been called a cheat and never will...... end of story
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[azza450]

Sorry Husky but I'm with Smitty on this one, Thump Pump has the potential to become the biggest offroad ATV series in the country, lets try a few different things and see how the event turns out before we make too many criticisms.

Who said anything about keeping certain riders out of the Pro class, I'm pretty sure Polaris still make a 450.