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ATC Heaven 50cc nipper

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: Another request |
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| I know this is a big ask but I'm trying to help out a customer in queensland who needs a recoil starter for his 81 ATC70, happy to pay a reasonable price for one if anybody has a spare!! |
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Mart 300r Roostin Away

Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 944
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Me to please lol _________________ 1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE |
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HaggLE Roostin Away

Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 511 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:25 am Post subject: |
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ButcherBoy Roostin Away

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 652 Location: Toronto, NSW  |
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: |
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http://hondaatc70.com/
email Gordon, he'll have them.
Completly Restored OEM Recoil Starters
Powder coated, lubed, new rope, handle, reproduction decal *3 month warranty
We stock both models,1973-1980 & 1981-1985 $199.00 _________________ Yamaha '07 Raptor 700r SE
Honda 1989 TRX 250r
Honda 1985 "70" 125cc
Honda 2012 "70" 200x |
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ylwgtr Blaster class
Joined: 23 May 2012 Posts: 112
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| they seem to be rare....isnt there anyone making these?Im thinking an awesome billet cnc machine case with internals from a lawn mower |
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HaggLE Roostin Away

Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 511 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it would be easier to find a Honda one rather than make a lawn mower one fit... besides, lawn mowers have the starter on the other end of the crank and pull clockwise, Hondas pull anti-clockwise. Its just easier to get a genuine one. |
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Mart 300r Roostin Away

Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 944
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Not easier when i found one on ebay the other night an seller wanted $549  _________________ 1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE |
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ButcherBoy Roostin Away

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 652 Location: Toronto, NSW  |
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Why are you looking on ebay for them? I've posted a link to a guy who sells them in the states, they're $200 and they're genuine, says that under the picture. $350 cheaper than old mate on eBay _________________ Yamaha '07 Raptor 700r SE
Honda 1989 TRX 250r
Honda 1985 "70" 125cc
Honda 2012 "70" 200x |
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ylwgtr Blaster class
Joined: 23 May 2012 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| HaggLE wrote: | | I think it would be easier to find a Honda one rather than make a lawn mower one fit... besides, lawn mowers have the starter on the other end of the crank and pull clockwise, Hondas pull anti-clockwise. Its just easier to get a genuine one. |
And that there ladies and gentlemen is why things get expensive ....I will stick to using my noggin and make things  |
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ButcherBoy Roostin Away

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 652 Location: Toronto, NSW  |
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| ylwgtr wrote: | | HaggLE wrote: | | I think it would be easier to find a Honda one rather than make a lawn mower one fit... besides, lawn mowers have the starter on the other end of the crank and pull clockwise, Hondas pull anti-clockwise. Its just easier to get a genuine one. |
And that there ladies and gentlemen is why things get expensive ....I will stick to using my noggin and make things  |
what's your plan to make it spin the opposite way? _________________ Yamaha '07 Raptor 700r SE
Honda 1989 TRX 250r
Honda 1985 "70" 125cc
Honda 2012 "70" 200x |
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ylwgtr Blaster class
Joined: 23 May 2012 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:04 am Post subject: |
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there is a gazillion differnt things from stationary pump motors,motor mowers,crappy chinese bikes ,generator engines chainsaws ect around.....im sure internal componants can be taken each and used to make a unit....$200 is a great figure....but the availability of things are short lived then the prices go up or the unit is non existant.....I play with a lots of strange,old,rare cars/motorbikes and nine times out of ten we end up making things we cant get.....my way of thinking is someone made it once,why cant we make it again?.....In this day and age where moulding/computer operated machines are so easy to get ahold of....reproducing or making things is far easier than when they made the product in the first place!For instance a friend of mine bought one of these for $1000 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-AXIS-CNC-ROUTER-ENGRAVER-MILLING-MACHINE-H80mm-/280758953475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item415e89a603
The stuff he makes at home is amazing for the cost of the machine,also the good thing about this is if i need to draw a part up and dont have the time i just email the dimentions to a mate on the other side of the world who has the time,he emails it back i come into work feed the program into the machine then go about my work and before you know it you have a part,If its a complex part i leave it running when i go home come in the morning and its done,no coffee breaks,no holidays,no complaining,no phone calls from the missus,no "i need to go for a crap" no nothing and perfect repitition everytime.........i think its just some people have the drive and interest to pursue making things and some dont....which i totally understand....but hey,if you want something bad enough theres always a way out.....im sure mart would agree  |
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ButcherBoy Roostin Away

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 652 Location: Toronto, NSW  |
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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that's all good and well, but that's like going out and buying a cow when all you need is a steak. _________________ Yamaha '07 Raptor 700r SE
Honda 1989 TRX 250r
Honda 1985 "70" 125cc
Honda 2012 "70" 200x |
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ButcherBoy Roostin Away

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 652 Location: Toronto, NSW  |
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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that's all good and well, but that's like going out and buying a cow when all you need is a steak. _________________ Yamaha '07 Raptor 700r SE
Honda 1989 TRX 250r
Honda 1985 "70" 125cc
Honda 2012 "70" 200x |
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ylwgtr Blaster class
Joined: 23 May 2012 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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i think your missing the point....a machine like that is obviously not used to produce only one object.for instance that cheap machine with a competent operator would make its cost back in no time....even not selling product if you had to pay a shop to make or buy simple brackets for something your messing with its all cost that go toward the initial purchase outlay for the machine....How much time do you spend sitting down scribing a piece of plate,cutting it out and dressing it up with files/grinders,drilling holes then to find out you need to slot the holes coz you ballsed it up or that radius took you an hour to file it ALMOST perfect ....Ive been there many times! We all have different views and this is just my view.My machine centre is far more complex and expensive that those machines but i know if i didnt have it id see those cheaper machines as such a small cost id buy one right away,its really not that had to use ....after using those things you never look back at doing things the hard way thats for sure....I do have an ATC70 with a functional starter,but just for sh1ts and giggles i may look into making one in time |
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richie_supercharged Roostin Away

Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 555 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Can you make case savers for atc 250r's _________________ If in Doubt.. Flat out
84 ATC 250r (290kit)
82 ATC 250r
77 ATC 90 |
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ylwgtr Blaster class
Joined: 23 May 2012 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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i have one on my 86 250r ...maybe i will start a thread if you guys want i will make some more |
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Mart 300r Roostin Away

Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 944
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yeh i dont like things beating me,And try to adopt the exact same attitude if someone made it once surely i can do it.Altough im still at the files and grinder stage well i do have my trusty ol hercus lathe and mill but far from cnc.Im gettin there though.Ive got access to real good welders lol  _________________ 1984 ATC 300R, 1986 TRX 500R,1984 ATC 200X, ATC 70 WITH CUSTOM LAYDOWN 250R ENGINE, 125CC CUSTOM THUMPSTER TRIKE |
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